<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736</id><updated>2012-01-27T02:53:36.325-08:00</updated><category term='seepage'/><category term='Hunza'/><category term='Pakistan'/><category term='Attabad'/><category term='Lake level'/><title type='text'>Hunza landslide monitoring</title><subtitle type='html'>This webpage displays graphs and data on the current state of the Attabad landslide dam in Hunza, N. Pakistan.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>35</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4639881724751167163</id><published>2010-07-03T03:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-03T03:50:24.796-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Data supply issues</title><content type='html'>At the moment I am not receiving data that can be posted on this site.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, I am not updating the information, but I am continuing to provide analysis and commentary on the main site.&amp;nbsp; Please take a look here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4639881724751167163?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4639881724751167163/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/07/data-supply-issues.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4639881724751167163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4639881724751167163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/07/data-supply-issues.html' title='Data supply issues'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1557009682845081747</id><published>2010-06-09T23:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-26T06:03:00.638-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - situation report (Updated 26th June 2010)</title><content type='html'>Commentary and analysis accompanying this data is provided on &lt;a href="http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;Dave's Landslide Blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Situation as per 25th June: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lake depth: 116.7 metres&lt;br /&gt;Change in lake depth in last 24 hours: +0.13 metres (negative number = fall in lake level)&lt;br /&gt;Spillway discharge: 352 cubic metres per second &lt;br /&gt;Estimated seepage: 6 cubic metres per second&lt;br /&gt;Estimated total outflow: 358 cubic metres per second&lt;br /&gt;Estimated total inflow: 419 cubic metres per second&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Lake level graphs:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Lake level and rate of filling from time of landslide:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TCXmnQvHefI/AAAAAAAADME/ECzDjtKjEg0/s1600/10_06+spillway+26th+June.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="396" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TCXmnQvHefI/AAAAAAAADME/ECzDjtKjEg0/s640/10_06+spillway+26th+June.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1557009682845081747?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1557009682845081747/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-situation-report-updated-10th.html#comment-form' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1557009682845081747'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1557009682845081747'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-situation-report-updated-10th.html' title='Attabad - situation report (Updated 26th June 2010)'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TCXmk5lmSSI/AAAAAAAADL0/ZqS56Iwuhfk/s72-c/10_06+lake+level+26th+June.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4788289667180443600</id><published>2010-06-09T00:00:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T00:00:06.857-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Slowing evolution of the spillway at Attabad</title><content type='html'>Once again I am grateful for Focus Humanitarian Assistance for  sending the latest photos of the spillway at Attabad.&amp;nbsp; The rate of  change new seems to be slowing as flow is being controlled by the large  boulders at the head of the channel.&amp;nbsp; This pair show the downslope side  of the channel - the left hand image was taken on 7th June and the right  hand image a day later:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA83JRljPlI/AAAAAAAADEU/xxxoNoGEvfw/s1600/10_06+channel+comparison+8th+June.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA83JRljPlI/AAAAAAAADEU/xxxoNoGEvfw/s640/10_06+channel+comparison+8th+June.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Allowing  for the slight change in camera angle, there is little indication of  major change between the two images.&amp;nbsp; The large boulder on the left side  of the upper part of the channel bank has slipped into the water on the  right hand image, presumably indicating that channel widening is  continuing.&amp;nbsp; Of course there may well be some continued erosion of the  bed that would is not visible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the upper  channel there is comparably little evidence of change also.&amp;nbsp; The inset  image is from 7th June, the main image a day later:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA84tlqfbZI/AAAAAAAADEc/UWBAGqXTzVE/s1600/10_06+channel+comparison+8th+June+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA84tlqfbZI/AAAAAAAADEc/UWBAGqXTzVE/s640/10_06+channel+comparison+8th+June+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  may be that a more detailed inspection on the ground would reveal a more  dynamic system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is my intention to stop duplicating  posts on the two sites from today, with the &lt;a href="http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/"&gt;Hunza Monitoring Blog&lt;/a&gt;  being used once again to present data on the state of the dam and the  lake, and &lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;Dave's  Landslide Blog&lt;/a&gt; to provide a commentary.&amp;nbsp; On &lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;DLB&lt;/a&gt; I will also  start covering other landslide events again.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4788289667180443600?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4788289667180443600/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/slowing-evolution-of-spillway-at.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4788289667180443600'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4788289667180443600'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/slowing-evolution-of-spillway-at.html' title='Slowing evolution of the spillway at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA83JRljPlI/AAAAAAAADEU/xxxoNoGEvfw/s72-c/10_06+channel+comparison+8th+June.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-6564467650573325941</id><published>2010-06-07T13:37:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-07T14:38:47.046-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Latest image of the spillway at Attabad</title><content type='html'>The wonderful people at Focus have provided an image of the state of  the spillway at Attabad that is very instructive.&amp;nbsp; This was taken today:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA1YObfncUI/AAAAAAAADEM/t5g5Tv2Rg94/s1600/10_06+spillway+7th+June.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA1YObfncUI/AAAAAAAADEM/t5g5Tv2Rg94/s640/10_06+spillway+7th+June.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The current state of play is I think as follows.&amp;nbsp; Flow appears to be  constrained by two blockages but, as a commenter has noted, one is a  rock spur out of the channel.&amp;nbsp; The blockage appears to have formed a  small waterfall / rapid.&amp;nbsp; Downstream of the blockage the channel has  widened dramatically - and indeed a section of the track has now been  lost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me this suggests that the crisis may be far  from being over.&amp;nbsp; In particular, the loss of this barrier could cause a  rapid increase in flow rate that could be highly erosive.&amp;nbsp; It is however  important to stress that interpreting the state of play from photos is  difficult.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-6564467650573325941?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/6564467650573325941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/latest-image-of-spillway-at-attabad.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6564467650573325941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6564467650573325941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/latest-image-of-spillway-at-attabad.html' title='Latest image of the spillway at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TA1YObfncUI/AAAAAAAADEM/t5g5Tv2Rg94/s72-c/10_06+spillway+7th+June.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4654608522447025927</id><published>2010-06-06T23:09:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-06T23:09:20.488-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - an increasingly difficult hazard to manage</title><content type='html'>Apologies to all who emailed and left messages over the weekend  requesting updates.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FWO data collected at 8 am on Saturday suggests that the rate of  flow was 124.6 cumecs, whilst the &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/"&gt;Pamir  Times&lt;/a&gt; reported yesterday that it was 131.7 cumecs.&amp;nbsp; If so, the  discharge time graph looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAyIC2tckYI/AAAAAAAADD8/hMTp-mgXp3Q/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+3.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="508" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAyIC2tckYI/AAAAAAAADD8/hMTp-mgXp3Q/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+3.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus,  the discharge is apparently stabilising.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/06/06/light-erosion-of-the-spillway-at-hunza-lake/"&gt;Various  media reports&lt;/a&gt; from the site itself suggest that downward erosion of  the channel has now reduced, but that some lateral erosion is still  occurring.&amp;nbsp; I have not seen any images to confirm this though.&amp;nbsp; The lake  has stopped rising for now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is hard from here to assess the current position with regards  to the dam, or to forecast what will happen next.&amp;nbsp; However, from the  start I have held the view that managing this hazard would be somewhat  challenging if stable flow became established.&amp;nbsp; The chronic hazard has  not gone away, although the acute hazard may have reduced.&amp;nbsp; As there is  still a vast quantity of water stored in the landscape, the dam remains  vulnerable to a series of processes, including:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;An unexpected increase in erosion rate;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Erosion during flood events (the discharge of the Hunza will rise  substantially in the next few weeks);&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt; A further landslide on the banks of the lake, which could trigger  a wave;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A seismic event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;Thus, NDMA have a huge challenge ahead in deciding when to allow  people to move back into the high hazard area.&amp;nbsp; They will also need to  decide whether to initiate erosion through the use of a controlled  blast.&amp;nbsp; This is not an unenviable decision to make.&amp;nbsp; Inevitably, there  are some exerting pressure to initiate a breach to drain the lake,  whilst others are happy with the status quo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, of course those on the upstream side remain isolated,  with a huge lake impeding access.&amp;nbsp; The Karakoram Highway remains closed  indefinitely, although the &lt;a href="http://www.hunzatimes.com/archives/6123#more-6123"&gt;boat service  has been resumed&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; During summer floods, when inflow may briefly  exceed outflow, the lake level could rise again by a small amount,  unless progressive erosion of the spillway serves to lower the lake  level.&amp;nbsp; Thus, overall, many challenges remain at Attabad.; it will be  interesting to see how NDMA responds to them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4654608522447025927?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4654608522447025927/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-increasingly-difficult-hazard.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4654608522447025927'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4654608522447025927'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-increasingly-difficult-hazard.html' title='Attabad - an increasingly difficult hazard to manage'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAyIC2tckYI/AAAAAAAADD8/hMTp-mgXp3Q/s72-c/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+3.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-3868204533552455044</id><published>2010-06-04T08:36:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T08:36:41.935-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: spillway flow update of 08:30 this morning</title><content type='html'>There is a mass of confusing and contradictory information about the  state of flow in the Attabad spillway, but the FWO data appears to be  consistent at the moment.&amp;nbsp; The latest data, again via Dr Sadiq,&amp;nbsp; is that  flow was 3700 cusecs (105 cumecs) at 08:00 local time this morning.&amp;nbsp;  This makes the graph look like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAkcXg5NTjI/AAAAAAAADD0/34JrMLaWRSY/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="508" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAkcXg5NTjI/AAAAAAAADD0/34JrMLaWRSY/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+2.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This  suggests that we are still seeing an incremental increase in flow.&amp;nbsp;  However, interestingly, the rate of inflow and the rate of outflow now  appear to be balanced, such that the lake level should stop rising (for a  while anyway).&amp;nbsp; If this happens, and spillway flow continues to  increase, we will know that erosion is developing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-3868204533552455044?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/3868204533552455044/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-spillway-flow-update-of-0830.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3868204533552455044'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3868204533552455044'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-spillway-flow-update-of-0830.html' title='Attabad: spillway flow update of 08:30 this morning'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAkcXg5NTjI/AAAAAAAADD0/34JrMLaWRSY/s72-c/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+2.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4370674406872479451</id><published>2010-06-04T02:17:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T02:17:16.611-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Photos of the development of the situation at Attabad</title><content type='html'>Focus have kindly provided a new set of images of the situation at  Attabad with respect to the spillway.&amp;nbsp; I think that these images were  taken yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most importantly, here is an overview  image of the spillway:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAi-A5OyidI/AAAAAAAADDM/qZccvneKW0c/s1600/10_06+attabad+overview+1.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAi-A5OyidI/AAAAAAAADDM/qZccvneKW0c/s640/10_06+attabad+overview+1.bmp" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is helpful to compare this with the image of the spillway from 1st June  (right hand image):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjA327Fi0I/AAAAAAAADDU/aAwwKJWwdj4/s1600/10_06+comparison+1st+and+3rd+June.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjA327Fi0I/AAAAAAAADDU/aAwwKJWwdj4/s640/10_06+comparison+1st+and+3rd+June.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is clear that the situation has developed considerably over the last few  days.&amp;nbsp; The flow along the spillway has increased greatly, and the lower  part of the channel has widened and deepened.&amp;nbsp; Flow appears to still be  controlled by the large boulder in the middle of the channel, although  the lowering of the channel downstream will be steadily undercutting  this.The development of the spring on the channel edge is also  interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A closer view of the spillway clearly shows how widening is  occurring:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjDHuD4ZjI/AAAAAAAADDc/yabFsSqFpT4/s1600/10_06+Attabad+spillway+close+in+view.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjDHuD4ZjI/AAAAAAAADDc/yabFsSqFpT4/s640/10_06+Attabad+spillway+close+in+view.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The flow is undercutting the banks, which are then progressively  failing.&amp;nbsp; Note also just how much scour is occurring even though the bed  of the channel is boulder-strewn - it is clear that at the moment the  boulders are not armouring the channel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A view from the  downstream side of the channel is fairly dramatic:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjDtEytgGI/AAAAAAAADDk/3depzr6a89Y/s1600/10_06+Attabad+spillway+downstream.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjDtEytgGI/AAAAAAAADDk/3depzr6a89Y/s640/10_06+Attabad+spillway+downstream.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This  gives the impression that there is a huge volume of water flowing.&amp;nbsp;  However, a look downstream towards the old landslide deposit at  Salmanabad (that is the big pile of debris upper right) shows that this  is not really the case:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjEKV67reI/AAAAAAAADDs/5GUiyYQzu_w/s1600/10_06+Attabad+valley.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAjEKV67reI/AAAAAAAADDs/5GUiyYQzu_w/s640/10_06+Attabad+valley.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is clear that the flow is still rather modest, despite the huge amount  of erosion that the water has achieved.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4370674406872479451?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4370674406872479451/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/photos-of-development-of-situation-at.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4370674406872479451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4370674406872479451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/photos-of-development-of-situation-at.html' title='Photos of the development of the situation at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAi-A5OyidI/AAAAAAAADDM/qZccvneKW0c/s72-c/10_06+attabad+overview+1.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1978257124920045445</id><published>2010-06-04T00:11:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T00:11:14.007-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: a different set of discharge data</title><content type='html'>Thanks to Aftab Sadiq of the School if Civil and Environmental  Engineering at &lt;a href="http://www.nust.edu.pk/"&gt;NUST&lt;/a&gt; for passing on  a revised set of spillway discharge data.&amp;nbsp; This set was collected by  the FWO.&amp;nbsp; It is almost identical to that published here previously, with  one important exception.&amp;nbsp; The graph of discharge against time is as  follows (correct to 17:00 yesterday, local time):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAiezvCWOvI/AAAAAAAADCs/8_5OFJa5cNM/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="507" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAiezvCWOvI/AAAAAAAADCs/8_5OFJa5cNM/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+1.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  difference between this and the data that I have published previously is  shown in this graph:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAif-ifq6ZI/AAAAAAAADC0/H3OYSmWLJ_Q/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+comparison.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="510" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAif-ifq6ZI/AAAAAAAADC0/H3OYSmWLJ_Q/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+comparison.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  key difference is for the data of 2nd June, when the FWO recorded a  rather higher discharge than did the earlier dataset.&amp;nbsp; I noted yesterday  that the linear trend in the earlier dataset was somewhat odd - the FWO  data does not show this.&amp;nbsp; The difference is minor on the one hand, but  important on another.&amp;nbsp; If we take the original dataset, the apparent  sudden stepped increased in discharge yesterday appeared to suggest a  major change in process - i.e. that erosion had initiated.&amp;nbsp; The FWO data  suggests that the process is unchanged - i.e. we are continuing to see  an increase in flow associated just with the increasing lake level.&amp;nbsp;  Given that as far as I am aware no breach has developed, my inclination  is that the FWO data may have captured the processes on 2nd June better,  but this is uncertain at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It will be very interesting to see what today's data  might bring.&amp;nbsp; As it appears that discharge and inflow are now coming  close to each other we might expect to see the discharge plateauing.&amp;nbsp;  However, some channel erosion will continue, so the situation is far  from resolved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Discussions with the team that dealt  with Tangjiashan showed&amp;nbsp; that one of their key concerns was that  overtopping would be followed by equilibrium conditions, leaving the  hazard in place and creating a very difficult management task  downstream.&amp;nbsp; At Hunza we have a repeat of this situation.&amp;nbsp; In the end at  Tangjiashan they resolved this by blasting the boulders that controlled   the flow in order to initiate a breach event. Given that they do not  communicate with me at all, I have no idea what the plans of NDMA might  be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, there is a &lt;a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44144"&gt;new  NASA ASTER image&lt;/a&gt;, collected on 1st June, of the site available:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAijp-2SNtI/AAAAAAAADC8/_q_pxRkiYhE/s1600/10_06+ASTER+Attabad+1st+June.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAijp-2SNtI/AAAAAAAADC8/_q_pxRkiYhE/s640/10_06+ASTER+Attabad+1st+June.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, thanks to G.M. Shah of AKU for pointing out that there  are some errors in the labeling on this series of images.&amp;nbsp; The key issue  is that the location of Shishkot is incorrect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAilV5h9OrI/AAAAAAAADDE/Y2gy_ppVfGY/s1600/10_06+ASTER+Attabad+1st+June+corrected.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAilV5h9OrI/AAAAAAAADDE/Y2gy_ppVfGY/s640/10_06+ASTER+Attabad+1st+June+corrected.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will post again when I have further information.&amp;nbsp; And finally,  from a personal perspective, thanks to all who wished me luck in my move  - it is complete.&amp;nbsp; I am now getting used to living on my own for the  first time in 16 years!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1978257124920045445?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1978257124920045445/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-different-set-of-discharge-data.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1978257124920045445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1978257124920045445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-different-set-of-discharge-data.html' title='Attabad: a different set of discharge data'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAiezvCWOvI/AAAAAAAADCs/8_5OFJa5cNM/s72-c/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+FWO+1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-8110700744962955689</id><published>2010-06-03T04:42:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-03T04:42:45.117-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad appears to have shifted to the next stage</title><content type='html'>In brief, the discharge at Attabad appears to have dramatically increased in the last few hours, as the graph below shows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAeVGI-aWII/AAAAAAAADCk/L5XFGcxHLKE/s1600/10_06+Attabad+start+of+next.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="464" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAeVGI-aWII/AAAAAAAADCk/L5XFGcxHLKE/s640/10_06+Attabad+start+of+next.bmp" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am trying to find out more information, but it appears to have shifted to a new phase of activity. Inflows and outflow may be approaching a balance. Downstream communities need to be very alert now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More as soon as I get it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-8110700744962955689?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/8110700744962955689/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-appears-to-have-shifted-to-next.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/8110700744962955689'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/8110700744962955689'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-appears-to-have-shifted-to-next.html' title='Attabad appears to have shifted to the next stage'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAeVGI-aWII/AAAAAAAADCk/L5XFGcxHLKE/s72-c/10_06+Attabad+start+of+next.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-9069468225982408008</id><published>2010-06-02T13:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-02T13:28:17.847-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - so why hasn't it breached yet?</title><content type='html'>Several people have emailed to ask why the lake has yet to breach.&amp;nbsp;  Well, I would like to emphasise two things - first, that every landslide  is different, so predicting the behaviour of any particular slide is  effectively impossible.&amp;nbsp; Second, there is a peculiarity about the  spillway that appears to be delaying the breach event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regular  readers (of which there are now several thousand each day I think -  thanks to you all) may remember that a &lt;a href="http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-is-now-reportedly.html"&gt;few  days ago I noted&lt;/a&gt; the presence of a large boulder in the channel,  right at the crown of the spillway:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa1FTVCkaI/AAAAAAAADB8/wSeyiTHS18Y/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa1FTVCkaI/AAAAAAAADB8/wSeyiTHS18Y/s640/10_05+spillway+image+1.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa1Gnyqt8I/AAAAAAAADCE/NkktaUH-yNA/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa1Gnyqt8I/AAAAAAAADCE/NkktaUH-yNA/s640/10_05+spillway+image+3.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Well  it is this boulder that is preventing the scour from propagating  upstream and that is, in effect, protecting the upper part of the  channel against further erosion, as this image shows.&amp;nbsp; The boulder is  circled:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa2Eg7KVgI/AAAAAAAADCM/AJlEy7mD8rc/s1600/10_06+spillway+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa2Eg7KVgI/AAAAAAAADCM/AJlEy7mD8rc/s640/10_06+spillway+4.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lower part of the channel is continuing to erode with some  power, and the channel is widening.&amp;nbsp; The red lines show substantial  cracks suggesting further potential widening.&amp;nbsp; The steepest part of the  channel is continuing to erode backwards, such that sooner or later the  boulder will start to be undercut.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, there  appears to be an increasing level of frustration about the very confused  spillway discharge statistics emerging from NDMA. &amp;nbsp; This is  understandable.&amp;nbsp; If we take the last four daily reports we get:&lt;br /&gt;29th  May 18:00: 150 cusecs (cubic feet per second) from the spillway, 350  total discharge&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;30th May 18:00: 900 cusecs total discharge&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;31st May 18:00: 900 cusecs total discharge&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1st June: 18:00: 1050 cusecs discharge at Ganesh Bridge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a quite bizarre mixture of measurements, but we should  all understand that the NDMA team dealing with this are under huge  pressure too.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, the more reliable  measurements of inflow suggest that the rate is continuing to increase  linearly with time, probably because of the choke provided by that  boulder.&amp;nbsp; However, I am very surprised by just how linear this increase  is proving to be, so please treat this with some caution: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa6A3-mkFI/AAAAAAAADCU/4QsbFOL0Z5c/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+5.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="464" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa6A3-mkFI/AAAAAAAADCU/4QsbFOL0Z5c/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+5.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  lake level upstream continues to rise, increasing both the damage and  the amount of water in the lake.&amp;nbsp; In the last 24 hours the lake level  rose by 75 cm, perhaps suggesting that the rate of inflow is further  increasing.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, several people have emailed to ask why I have not  covered the multiple landslide accidents around the world in the last  few days, including the multiple slides in Central America (and that  amazing sinkhole), the landslides in China, the non-fatal slide in New  Zealand, etc.&amp;nbsp; I will try to catch up on all of those things as and when  this event ends - please accept my apologies.&amp;nbsp; You will understand that  I have to maintain my day job whilst doing this, plus yesterday and  today I am moving house!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-9069468225982408008?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/9069468225982408008/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-so-why-hasnt-it-breached-yet.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/9069468225982408008'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/9069468225982408008'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-so-why-hasnt-it-breached-yet.html' title='Attabad - so why hasn&apos;t it breached yet?'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAa1FTVCkaI/AAAAAAAADB8/wSeyiTHS18Y/s72-c/10_05+spillway+image+1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-6832330667852874099</id><published>2010-06-02T01:42:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-02T03:48:01.295-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - flow continues to increase with time</title><content type='html'>The &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/06/02/cumulative-discharge-from-hunza-river-lake-reaches-1200-cusecs/"&gt;Pamir Times reports&lt;/a&gt; that as of lunchtime today the flow through the spillway had increased to about 850 cubic feet per second - i.e. 24 cubic metres per second, giving a discharge - time graph that looks like this: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAYYbHWPWCI/AAAAAAAADBs/0h0Ii3hNEOs/s1600/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="466" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAYYbHWPWCI/AAAAAAAADBs/0h0Ii3hNEOs/s640/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+2.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the last 72 hours or so the increase in discharge with time appears to have been linear, which is interesting.&amp;nbsp; This suggests that erosion of the saddle has yet to initiate fully.&amp;nbsp; Fortunately so far the in situ (i.e. not excavated) lacustrine silt and clay has been more resistant to erosion than some had speculated, although the disturbed (excavated and dumped) material has proven to be very erodible.&amp;nbsp; However, the inflow remains more than three times greater than the outflow (seepage plus spillway flow), and retrogressive erosion will in due course steepen the channel, which will increase the erosive potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the meantime the level of the lake is continuing to rise at 50 cm or so per day, with the upshot that further flooding is occurring upstream.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/06/02/updates-from-sinking-shishkat/"&gt;The Pamir Times has a tragic (but beautifully shot) photo piece&lt;/a&gt; (plus &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/06/01/destruction-in-gulmit/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) on these continued impacts.&amp;nbsp; The level of impact up there is all too clear:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAYZSqCEKAI/AAAAAAAADB0/Odt-Pin_nQU/s1600/10_06+gulmit+sinking.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAYZSqCEKAI/AAAAAAAADB0/Odt-Pin_nQU/s640/10_06+gulmit+sinking.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-6832330667852874099?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/6832330667852874099/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-flow-continues-to-increase-with.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6832330667852874099'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6832330667852874099'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-flow-continues-to-increase-with.html' title='Attabad - flow continues to increase with time'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAYYbHWPWCI/AAAAAAAADBs/0h0Ii3hNEOs/s72-c/10_06+spillway+flow+graph+2.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-315937755662685132</id><published>2010-06-01T10:26:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-01T10:26:48.813-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - continued retrogression.  Close to the next stage?</title><content type='html'>The latest images from Attabad suggest that the retrogressive erosion  in the channel continues to accelerate, and that this is now by far the  most likely failure mechanism.&amp;nbsp; A breach now looks to me to be  inevitable.&amp;nbsp; This image, taken this afternoon, shows how the spillway  has developed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAU_F86FsoI/AAAAAAAADBM/UTb7KmwUsZM/s1600/10_06+spillway.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAU_F86FsoI/AAAAAAAADBM/UTb7KmwUsZM/s640/10_06+spillway.jpg" width="620" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note  the people on the road for scale.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare it with  yesterday's image:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAVA2jgeS1I/AAAAAAAADBU/dOL-CeDrGyg/s1600/10_05+spillway.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="462" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAVA2jgeS1I/AAAAAAAADBU/dOL-CeDrGyg/s640/10_05+spillway.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  waterfall has now smoothed out, probably because the water is now  eroding the landslide mass rather than the excavated material from the  spillway, to create a set of rapids that are clearly eroding back up the  channel.&amp;nbsp; The head of the rapids are close to the saddle.&amp;nbsp; The key  point is probably the location where the channel become notably steeper -  this is where scour accelerates.&amp;nbsp; One this point is reaches and passes  the saddle, the rate of flow will start to increase and we might well  see the breach developing.&amp;nbsp; Unless the top of the rapids is being  impeded by a large boulder or similar, this will probably develop quite  quickly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It remains hard to know how quickly this will develop once the  saddle is reached, but downstream communities need to be prepared for a  rapid breach.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-315937755662685132?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/315937755662685132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-continued-retrogression-close.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/315937755662685132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/315937755662685132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-continued-retrogression-close.html' title='Attabad - continued retrogression.  Close to the next stage?'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAU_F86FsoI/AAAAAAAADBM/UTb7KmwUsZM/s72-c/10_06+spillway.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-7633307962471919585</id><published>2010-06-01T00:26:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-01T00:26:35.882-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - further retrogressive erosion</title><content type='html'>The latest photos from the site, taken late yesterday, show that the  retrogressive erosion of the channel is continuing to develop rapidly.&amp;nbsp;  This image was taken at about 5 pm yesterday:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TASv6YRrL3I/AAAAAAAADA8/vGXG7ay_7z8/s1600/DSC02832.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TASv6YRrL3I/AAAAAAAADA8/vGXG7ay_7z8/s640/DSC02832.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  lower part of the channel has widened and, more importantly, the steep  section has moved up channel considerably.&amp;nbsp; Bear in mind that this image  is more than 15 hours old now.&amp;nbsp; The best illustration of the way that  this is developing is with this sequence of three images, which are  taken about a day apart, starting on 29th May on the left and ending  with 31st May on the right:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAS0OmTtKAI/AAAAAAAADBE/znT53uTy-JI/s1600/10_06+three+images+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="176" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAS0OmTtKAI/AAAAAAAADBE/znT53uTy-JI/s640/10_06+three+images+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that release of the water in the lake is now  highly likely in the next few days.&amp;nbsp; The most likely mode of failure  looks to be this retrogressive erosion, which could lead to a rapid  release event, but the initiation of erosion through downcutting cannot  be ruled out.&amp;nbsp; Downstream communities need to be prepared. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have received no update on the state of flow in the channel - I  will post again when some information becomes available.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-7633307962471919585?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/7633307962471919585/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-further-retrogressive-erosion.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7633307962471919585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7633307962471919585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/06/attabad-further-retrogressive-erosion.html' title='Attabad - further retrogressive erosion'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TASv6YRrL3I/AAAAAAAADA8/vGXG7ay_7z8/s72-c/DSC02832.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4020425137414375911</id><published>2010-05-31T12:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T12:15:39.623-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - flow and erosion are continuing to accelerate</title><content type='html'>Flow through the spillway at Attabad has continued to develop during the day.&amp;nbsp; However, as I suggested in my post this morning, some of the higher discharge values being quoted are without foundation.&amp;nbsp; At 6 pm the discharge was about 360 cubic feet per second (10.2 cubic metres per second).&amp;nbsp; Thus, the discharge graph looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAQH0_myj3I/AAAAAAAADA0/At-cG46Jv-c/s1600/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="464" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAQH0_myj3I/AAAAAAAADA0/At-cG46Jv-c/s640/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+3.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the moment there appears to be little evidence from these figures that large-scale scour and erosion has been initiated - the increase in flow appears to be the consequence of the increasing lake level, plus perhaps some lateral erosion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, erosion at the toe of the slope remains the major concern, with reports suggesting that the gully is continuing to erode back through the channel.&amp;nbsp; This remains the most likely failure mode of the dam, but this may take a few more days to initiate.&amp;nbsp; In addition, the increasing channel discharge may cause the flow velocity to increase to the point at which basal erosion starts.&amp;nbsp; This has not yet happened, but could begin at any stage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There have been various comments on the blog that the dam is not behaving as expected - i.e. erosion is not initiating - and that as a result measures should be taken to encourage erosion.&amp;nbsp; I want to stress that this is not correct - from the start we knew that it could be that it could take some time for erosion to initiate.&amp;nbsp; So far I see nothing surprising in the behaviour of this system, and nothing to suggest that erosion will not allow a lowering of the lake level in the next few days.&amp;nbsp; At the same time, it is important to emphasise that the probability of a rapid breach has not diminished, and may in fact have slightly increased due to the headward erosion of the lower gully. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no need to panic, but at the same time there is also no justification for lowering the alert status.&amp;nbsp; We all need to be patient and alert - this has a long way to go yet.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; If you are in the area please pay attention to the local alert system.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4020425137414375911?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4020425137414375911/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-and-erosion-are-continuing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4020425137414375911'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4020425137414375911'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-and-erosion-are-continuing.html' title='Attabad - flow and erosion are continuing to accelerate'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAQH0_myj3I/AAAAAAAADA0/At-cG46Jv-c/s72-c/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1238351724960055835</id><published>2010-05-31T03:00:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T03:00:34.433-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - flow on the spillway continues to develop slowly</title><content type='html'>The discharge across the spillway at Attabad is still increasing.&amp;nbsp;  Whilst some reports suggest that it is higher, the Pamir Times&lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/"&gt;http://pamirtimes.net/&lt;/a&gt; suggests that  the flow at 2 pm local time was 250 cubic feet per second (7.08 cubic  metres per second).&amp;nbsp; If this is correct, the discharge time graph looks  like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAOEGiZA9SI/AAAAAAAADAs/zW8msly0HKk/s1600/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="464" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAOEGiZA9SI/AAAAAAAADAs/zW8msly0HKk/s640/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the  situation is now somewhat confused as the &lt;a href="http://ndma.gov.pk/AttaHunzaLandslide.html"&gt;NDMA report&lt;/a&gt; from 6  pm on 30th May (i.e. yesterday) was that total outflow was 900 cusecs  (25 cubic metres per second).&amp;nbsp; Assuming that 250 cusecs is seepage, this  would give a spillway flow of 650 cusecs (18.4 cubic metres per  second).&amp;nbsp; This seems to be surprisingly high.&amp;nbsp; Maybe the NDMA  information has the wrong time stamp?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, at the  moment I am a little confused as to what is happening.&amp;nbsp; I will try to  clarify this in the next few hours.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1238351724960055835?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1238351724960055835/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-on-spillway-continues-to_31.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1238351724960055835'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1238351724960055835'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-on-spillway-continues-to_31.html' title='Attabad - flow on the spillway continues to develop slowly'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAOEGiZA9SI/AAAAAAAADAs/zW8msly0HKk/s72-c/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-2536356603165117671</id><published>2010-05-30T12:05:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T12:08:37.028-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Retrogressive erosion at Attabad</title><content type='html'>Flow continues to increase at Attabad.&amp;nbsp; Inflow is still exceeding  outflow and seepage, so the lake level continues to rise, to the  detriment of the upstream communities. There has been some confusion  about the statistics about outflow - it is now clear that NDMA  discussions often use the combined spillway plus seepage figure, but  that this is interpreted by the media as being the spillway flow.&amp;nbsp;  According to the NDMA press conference tonight, combined seepage plus  spillway is about 400 cubic feet per second (about 11 cubic metres per  second), still less than 20% of inflow. The remaining 80% will mostly  need to be accommodated by the spillway, so this has a long way to go  yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Downcutting on the saddle of the spillway, where  the gradient (and thus the water velocity) is low, appears to be  limited at the moment.&amp;nbsp; Looking at the following two images, all of the  action is on the downstream face.&amp;nbsp; This picture was taken between 8 am  and 9 am local time this morning:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAKz15tXBrI/AAAAAAAADAU/yyRR7Y8Ggbk/s1600/10_05+retrogression+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAKz15tXBrI/AAAAAAAADAU/yyRR7Y8Ggbk/s640/10_05+retrogression+1.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note the clear erosion (deep downcutting) in the lower part of  the channel, which appears to be driving some local instability too.&amp;nbsp;  The following picture was taken just before dark (hence the lower  quality), between 6 and 7 pm (local time):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAKz29zmF6I/AAAAAAAADAc/r_TiNBZy96A/s1600/10_05+retrogression+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAKz29zmF6I/AAAAAAAADAc/r_TiNBZy96A/s640/10_05+retrogression+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look  carefully at the erosion in the lower part of the channel - the two  waterfalls are clearly eroding back through the channel.&amp;nbsp; This is a  common mode of failure for landslide dams - indeed &lt;a href="http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-less-than-two-metres-to-go.html"&gt;I  highlighted it a couple of days ago&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; As the discharge through the  channel increases we might seethe rate of retrogression of these faces  increase.&amp;nbsp; On the other hand, initiation of downcutting in the channel  might eliminate them altogether.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Certainly these  features need to be watched very closely over the next few days.&amp;nbsp; IF  (and it is a big if - by no means a certainty) these features started to  erode through the saddle then a fairly rapid failure could develop.&amp;nbsp; However at the moment there is no need to worry unduly - this is just something to watch carefully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally,  failures continue to occur on the main scarp above the dam.&amp;nbsp; This one  happened early this evening:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAK2q5hhy4I/AAAAAAAADAk/s-lvUuduyI0/s1600/10_05+retrogression+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAK2q5hhy4I/AAAAAAAADAk/s-lvUuduyI0/s640/10_05+retrogression+3.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  did not result in a wave.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-2536356603165117671?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/2536356603165117671/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/retrogressive-erosion-at-attabad.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/2536356603165117671'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/2536356603165117671'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/retrogressive-erosion-at-attabad.html' title='Retrogressive erosion at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAKz15tXBrI/AAAAAAAADAU/yyRR7Y8Ggbk/s72-c/10_05+retrogression+1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-4965327441457563533</id><published>2010-05-30T07:31:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T07:31:50.196-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Reported increases in spillway flow at Attabad</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;If you live in the Hunza and Indus  valleys,  please do not rely upon this blog to provide warnings and up to  date  information.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Using only reliable reports in the  media (mostly information from the &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/"&gt;Pamir  Times&lt;/a&gt;) and those from &lt;a href="http://ndma.gov.pk/AttaHunzaLandslide.html"&gt;NDMA&lt;/a&gt;, the  following graph shows the reported flow through the spillway at  Attabad.&amp;nbsp; There is a huge caveat here regarding the reliability of the  reports.&amp;nbsp; However, the most recent figure is the NDMA reported value.&amp;nbsp;  Times are local to Pakistan (UT +5 hours)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJ03EM55ZI/AAAAAAAADAM/mpgffR-f5Hg/s1600/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="464" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJ03EM55ZI/AAAAAAAADAM/mpgffR-f5Hg/s640/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is clear  that flow is now increasing quite rapidly.&amp;nbsp; However, &lt;b&gt;do not be  panicked by this&lt;/b&gt; - it is as we would expect and does not indicate  anything in particular at this stage.&amp;nbsp; Meanwhile of course the water  level in the lake is still rising at about 2.5 cm per hour, which will  be increasing the impact on the upstream communities.&amp;nbsp; We must not  forget them is this crisis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;If  you live in the Hunza and Indus valleys, please do not rely upon this  blog to provide warnings and up to date information.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-4965327441457563533?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/4965327441457563533/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/reported-increases-in-spillway-flow-at.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4965327441457563533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/4965327441457563533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/reported-increases-in-spillway-flow-at.html' title='Reported increases in spillway flow at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJ03EM55ZI/AAAAAAAADAM/mpgffR-f5Hg/s72-c/10_05+Attabad+spillway+flow+graph.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1975433258410506210</id><published>2010-05-30T06:58:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T06:58:36.671-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - flow on the spillway continues to develop slowly</title><content type='html'>Flow through the spillway continues to increase slowly.&amp;nbsp; So far there  are no signs of the development of a breach, but the amount of water  passing through the spillway remains much less than the inflow.&amp;nbsp; This  image, taken yesterday morning, shows water passing through the channel:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJrMZ8JMHI/AAAAAAAAC_0/v2rCoUQm4N4/s1600/10_05+spillway+flow.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJrMZ8JMHI/AAAAAAAAC_0/v2rCoUQm4N4/s640/10_05+spillway+flow.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  difference between the flow in the channel and the amount of water  coming through the dam as seepage (the large channel bottom right) at  this time is very clear.&amp;nbsp; The channel flow at this time was in the order  of 20 cubic feet per second; the seepage is over 100 cubic feet per  second.&amp;nbsp; Since then channel flow has increased (I'll blog on this  shortly).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is important to stress that the threat has  not reduced.&amp;nbsp; There was always a good chance that flow would develop  slowly and that erosion would take time to initiate.&amp;nbsp; Flow needs to  reach &amp;gt;2,500 cubic feet per second to equilibriate the lake level  even at the current rate of inflow.&amp;nbsp; The river discharge will more than  double over the next month, putting further stress on the spillway.&amp;nbsp; The  best image illustrating the latent threat at this site is this one,  also taken yesterday:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJtHj-iryI/AAAAAAAAC_8/6abuOJomxX8/s1600/10_05+spillway+flow+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJtHj-iryI/AAAAAAAAC_8/6abuOJomxX8/s640/10_05+spillway+flow+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At  the moment this is very reminiscent of the early stages of flow at  Tangjiashan:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJuYNfR16I/AAAAAAAADAE/_jO1hlZdXSw/s1600/08_06+tangjiashan+10.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJuYNfR16I/AAAAAAAADAE/_jO1hlZdXSw/s640/08_06+tangjiashan+10.jpg" width="387" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1975433258410506210?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1975433258410506210/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-on-spillway-continues-to.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1975433258410506210'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1975433258410506210'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-flow-on-spillway-continues-to.html' title='Attabad - flow on the spillway continues to develop slowly'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAJrMZ8JMHI/AAAAAAAAC_0/v2rCoUQm4N4/s72-c/10_05+spillway+flow.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-5149455294567366151</id><published>2010-05-30T00:23:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T00:23:32.191-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad overtopping - first image</title><content type='html'>The &lt;a href="http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C05%5C30%5Cstory_30-5-2010_pg1_5"&gt;Daily  Times&lt;/a&gt; has published the first picture of the spillway in operation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAIJ7GokDNI/AAAAAAAAC_s/cuQP9CJC3m0/s1600/10_05+attabad+spillway.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="180" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAIJ7GokDNI/AAAAAAAAC_s/cuQP9CJC3m0/s320/10_05+attabad+spillway.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Meanwhile, the &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/05/30/spillway-deepens-due-to-fast-erosion/"&gt;Pamir  Times&lt;/a&gt; reports that: "The volume of water passing through the  spillway has reportedly  increased to around 50 Cusecs".&amp;nbsp; 50 Cusecs is  1.4 cubic metres per second.&amp;nbsp; This is still a fraction of the total  inflow, so we have a long way to go.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-5149455294567366151?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/5149455294567366151/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-first-image.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/5149455294567366151'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/5149455294567366151'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-first-image.html' title='Attabad overtopping - first image'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/TAIJ7GokDNI/AAAAAAAAC_s/cuQP9CJC3m0/s72-c/10_05+attabad+spillway.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-5886247836564847938</id><published>2010-05-29T09:27:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-29T09:36:23.718-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: initial flow established</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Please note that it is hard for me to keep up  to date with this evolving situation.&amp;nbsp; If you are potentially-affected  by this hazard please use the formal channels of communication set up by  the government.&amp;nbsp; Do not rely on this blog to provide warnings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flow  through the spillway is now properly established and is increasing with  time.&amp;nbsp; The &lt;a href="http://ndma.gov.pk/AttaHunzaLandslide.html"&gt;latest  NDMA report &lt;/a&gt;suggests that flow is 300 cubic feet per second (8.5  cumecs), which sounds surprisingly high - indeed I am sceptical of this  figure.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color: #274e13;"&gt;UPDATE: The &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/05/29/water-flow-through-spillway-at-hunza-lake-slowly-increasing/"&gt;Pamir  Times is reporting&lt;/a&gt; 25 cubic feet per second (0.71 cumecs).&amp;nbsp; this  figure sounds more sensible. &lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; Reports suggest that so far the  flow is stable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So where does this leave us? Well, as I  suggested this morning, erosion is likely to take a while to develop,  so we are far from out of the woods as yet.&amp;nbsp; Some lateral erosion at  this stage might be helpful in widening the channel, increasing its  capacity.&amp;nbsp; However, as the flow increases the chances of the channel  becoming blocked will slowly reduce, but again it is too early to  eliminate this possibility.&amp;nbsp; As flow increases the potential for erosion  also rises, so for me the critical period is from now until the point  at which outflow = inflow.&amp;nbsp; This point is some days away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is clear that the authorities are taking this very seriously now, with  helicopter surveillance in addition to the land-based monitoring.&amp;nbsp; This  is good to hear.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-5886247836564847938?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/5886247836564847938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-initial-flow-established.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/5886247836564847938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/5886247836564847938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-initial-flow-established.html' title='Attabad: initial flow established'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-7897799214659645802</id><published>2010-05-29T00:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-29T00:07:51.869-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: overtopping has begun</title><content type='html'>"&lt;i&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;The next 12 hours could be crucial as the  water flow  would reach its maximum intensity," commented an official of the  National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA), the organization mainly  responsible for the overall rescue and damage control operation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;Maybe this is  a misquote?&amp;nbsp; The next twelve hours are crucial of course, but there is a  good chance that a breach won't develop in this time.&amp;nbsp; The water level  will continue to rise until outflow (seepage + spillway flow) = inflow.&amp;nbsp;  As some of the water is being released, this may well take much more  than 12 hours to develop.&amp;nbsp; In addition, a breach will only start when  erosion of the base occurs at the highest point of the saddle.&amp;nbsp; This may  well take time to occur.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;So, I would like to make two points:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;1. The development of a breach in the next 12 hours is very  possible; the failure of a breach to develop does not mean that one  won't occur.&amp;nbsp; At Tangjiashan the breach took several days to start, but  was then rapid;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;2. It is also  possible that an initial small flood will happen, but that this will  then cease.&amp;nbsp; For example, this could be the case if the sides of the  channel collapse, blocking the flow.&amp;nbsp; We must be clear that if there is a  small flood that then declines then the situation is certainly not  over.&amp;nbsp; People must not go back into the danger zone until we know that  the threat has passed.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course what we are  hoping for now is slow erosion and the release of the water over the  next few days.&amp;nbsp; Such a scenario is certainly not beyond the bounds of  possibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;I will post again as  more information becomes available&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;but don't be surprised if  this takes a few days to develop.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span id="Zoom"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-7897799214659645802?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/7897799214659645802/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-has-begun.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7897799214659645802'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7897799214659645802'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-has-begun.html' title='Attabad: overtopping has begun'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1947577511213518677</id><published>2010-05-28T06:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T06:43:13.318-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: freeboard report 28th May</title><content type='html'>The media in Pakistan are reporting that the freeboard is now 2 feet  (61 cm).&amp;nbsp; Assuming that this was taken at the normal measuring time  (i.e. 3 pm local time) the freeboard graph looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S__HIGTpslI/AAAAAAAAC_k/aKBoLDxoVCw/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+8.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S__HIGTpslI/AAAAAAAAC_k/aKBoLDxoVCw/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+8.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jean  Schneider, who is on site and flew over the spillway today, reports that  overtopping should begin overnight.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1947577511213518677?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1947577511213518677/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-report-28th-may.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1947577511213518677'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1947577511213518677'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-report-28th-may.html' title='Attabad: freeboard report 28th May'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S__HIGTpslI/AAAAAAAAC_k/aKBoLDxoVCw/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+8.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-3732408151502948720</id><published>2010-05-28T00:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T00:11:15.065-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: Overtopping is now likely to be imminent</title><content type='html'>It is unfortunate timing that the likely day of overtopping has  fallen on a Friday, the holy day in Pakistan, meaning that flow of  information is impeded.&amp;nbsp; As a result I have not yet had an update for  today on the lake level.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.baunat.boku.ac.at/891.html"&gt;Jean Schneider of BOKU&lt;/a&gt;  visited the site yesterday by helicopter and measured the freeboard at  2.25 feet, which is about 70 cm.&amp;nbsp; I am not sure what time this  measurement was made.&amp;nbsp; Based upon the rate of rise of water level, that  should put the time of overtopping at some time today.&amp;nbsp; However, this  will depend upon the continued rise of the water at a similar rate, no  further heave of the floor of the spillway and, perhaps most  importantly, no further collapse of the walls of the spillway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile,  the continued mixed messages from the Pakistan administration has been  illustrated by an article in &lt;a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=241756"&gt;The News&lt;/a&gt;  today:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Zameer Abbas, Assistant Commissioner and in  charge of relief camps in  Hunza Nagar, told this correspondent that the Karakoram Highway had been  closed for every kind of vehicular traffic as the lake water was  expected to reach spillway today (Friday) after which the overflow would  begin, paving the way for controlled release of water.&amp;nbsp; Dismissing  the chances of water outburst, he said the landslide blocked some  one-and-a-half portion of the Hunza River and it was apparently out of  question that water would force out of this huge amount of mud and  debris."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will post again when more information  becomes available.&amp;nbsp; I will probably put this on my other blog first: &lt;a href="http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Please can you email me at: &lt;a href="mailto:d.n.petley@durham.ac.uk"&gt;d.n.petley@durham.ac.uk&lt;/a&gt;,  and/or add a comment to this post, if you have news on the situation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-3732408151502948720?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/3732408151502948720/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-is-now-likely-to-be.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3732408151502948720'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3732408151502948720'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-overtopping-is-now-likely-to-be.html' title='Attabad: Overtopping is now likely to be imminent'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-3460299591966397616</id><published>2010-05-27T07:16:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-27T07:16:25.013-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: the freeboard is now reportedly about 1.3 metres</title><content type='html'>The latest NDMA figures suggest that the freeboard is down to about  4.3 feet (1.31 metres) as of 3 pm today.&amp;nbsp; That is a reduction of about  70 cm on the day, meaning that we are probably less than two days from  the point of overtopping:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_57Rg-ZQpI/AAAAAAAAC-k/R_XyoLDDemQ/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+7.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_57Rg-ZQpI/AAAAAAAAC-k/R_XyoLDDemQ/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+7.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;I am  reasonably confident of these values as the Focus geologists took this  picture yesterday of the spillway:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_56lZZ1vTI/AAAAAAAAC-c/48glS5jrr4Y/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_56lZZ1vTI/AAAAAAAAC-c/48glS5jrr4Y/s640/10_05+spillway+image+1.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  circled boulder is the crest of the spillway, so water flow will start  when this point is reached.&amp;nbsp; Of course the one potential problem is a  slope failure on the spillway walls, which could block the channel.&amp;nbsp;  This is a real possibility, but we won't know until tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Close  up the channel at this point looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_58aoYiLuI/AAAAAAAAC-0/BscBMRXy60I/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_58aoYiLuI/AAAAAAAAC-0/BscBMRXy60I/s640/10_05+spillway+image+3.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately the large boulder will resist lateral cutting,  initially at least, which is likely to increase the rate of  down-cutting.&amp;nbsp; This is unfortunate.&amp;nbsp; Once the water reaches the top it  will initially flow down this channel, crossing the summit of the dam:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_57964U1jI/AAAAAAAAC-s/XZZFL-G9fXE/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_57964U1jI/AAAAAAAAC-s/XZZFL-G9fXE/s640/10_05+spillway+image+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And  then will flow down here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_59BJFslPI/AAAAAAAAC-8/aihnUONORP4/s1600/10_05+spillway+image+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_59BJFslPI/AAAAAAAAC-8/aihnUONORP4/s640/10_05+spillway+image+4.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  disturbance here is from collapse of the banks induced by the seepage.&amp;nbsp;  Finally, it will flow down the main river channel:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_59006OXFI/AAAAAAAAC_E/EZy8KutwZzs/s1600/PICT0169.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_59006OXFI/AAAAAAAAC_E/EZy8KutwZzs/s400/PICT0169.JPG" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The terrace in  the centre left of the image is at 60 metres above the river level.&amp;nbsp;  Previous (comparatively recent) floods have not reached this level,  which is half the height of the dam.&amp;nbsp; This is the level that we believe  is comparatively safe from the flood.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-3460299591966397616?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/3460299591966397616/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-is-now-reportedly.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3460299591966397616'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3460299591966397616'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-is-now-reportedly.html' title='Attabad: the freeboard is now reportedly about 1.3 metres'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_57Rg-ZQpI/AAAAAAAAC-k/R_XyoLDDemQ/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+7.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-830797050044187837</id><published>2010-05-26T00:38:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-26T00:38:41.230-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad: update report for 26th May</title><content type='html'>The combined monitoring effort appears now to be providing consistent  measurements of the remaining freeboard, and these are now being used  in the media, which is helpful.&amp;nbsp; As of late last night the reported  freeboard was 8.8 feet, which is 2.56 metres.&amp;nbsp; This provides a freeboard  - time graph that looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_zKEzx9UvI/AAAAAAAAC98/Saqiz4fuOM4/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+5.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_zKEzx9UvI/AAAAAAAAC98/Saqiz4fuOM4/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+5.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This suggests  that we are still on course for overtopping on about 27th or 28th May,  although clearly this remains a moving target for all the reasons  previously outlined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, the media in Pakistan  have now picked up on the inconsistencies in the measurements reported  by NDMA, and in particular their incorrect measurements of freeboard.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100526/FOREIGN/705259890/1002"&gt;This  article&lt;/a&gt; is strongly critical of the error by the government  agencies:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;"However, during a tour of the dam site on  Monday the NDMA chairman,  Nadeem Ahmed, discovered significant  differences in measurements  recorded by the Frontier Works Organisation  (FWO) and the  Gilgit-Baltistan region’s public works department.&amp;nbsp; “He  was  furious when he noticed the discrepancies and realised the NDMA had  been  reporting inaccurate data,” a participating official said.&amp;nbsp; Mr   Ahmed immediately ordered a dam-site demonstration of the methods used   by the two government agencies, before declaring that the public works   department’s “freeboard auto-level gauge” system, based on   instrumentation manufactured by Nikon of Japan, should in future be the   sole official data source&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again the question has  to be asked as to why NDMA did not use the expert advice that was freely  offered?&amp;nbsp; This decision continues to mystify me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  state of the spillway is also a concern now within Pakistan.&amp;nbsp; From the &lt;a href="http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100526/FOREIGN/705259890/1002"&gt;same  article&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The engineers said the 25-metre-deep  spillway was too narrow to  accommodate outflows of more than 2,400  cusecs from the lake, which held  an estimated 1.2 million cusecs on May  17. A cusec is a unit of water  flow equal to one cubit foot per  second. "There is a serious possibility that the entry of water into the   spillway could trigger a collapse of debris that would block it   altogether,” an engineer said.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several people have  asked why the slopes on the sides of the spillway are failing given that  the weather is dry.&amp;nbsp; The answer I think lies in the material - which  dries on the surface but remains wet and very weak just below - and the  loading from the excavated materials on the slopes above the spillway:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_zM1L-fLLI/AAAAAAAAC-E/AD5bwuCkqVA/s1600/10_05+spillway+spoil.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_zM1L-fLLI/AAAAAAAAC-E/AD5bwuCkqVA/s640/10_05+spillway+spoil.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/05/26/latest-aerial-view-of-the-spillway/"&gt;Pamir  Times have published&lt;/a&gt; a photo of the dam from the upstream side.&amp;nbsp;  The watermark is a shame (but understandable).&amp;nbsp; What is notable here is  that the upstream face of the dam has undergone a slope failure (the  scar is quite obvious on the left side above the lake).&amp;nbsp; This does not  threaten the integrity of the dam in any way, but does indicate that the  materials from which is it formed are comparatively weak.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll  try to provide another update later, but have to travel to London to  attend the launch of the &lt;a href="http://www.ucl.ac.uk/rdr/"&gt;UCL  Institute for Risk and Disaster Reduction&lt;/a&gt; this evening.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-830797050044187837?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/830797050044187837/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-update-report-for-26th-may.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/830797050044187837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/830797050044187837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-update-report-for-26th-may.html' title='Attabad: update report for 26th May'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_zKEzx9UvI/AAAAAAAAC98/Saqiz4fuOM4/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+5.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-2729537736471637704</id><published>2010-05-25T00:24:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-25T00:24:50.815-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - a bizarre race between two processes</title><content type='html'>Yesterdays "coalition" resurvey of the spillway and water level now  appears to provide a definitive freeboard value.&amp;nbsp; As of 8 am this  morning the freeboard was 3.027 metres, representing an increase of  water level of 1.09 metres in the last 24 hours.&amp;nbsp; This elevated rate of  water level rise probably reflects the warmer weather in the area in the  last few days, which will be driving snowmelt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have  recalculated the freeboard values assuming that the official numbers  released today are correct, meaning the the early figures  under-estimated the true freeboard figure.&amp;nbsp; The resulting graph is as  follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t2POPFG_I/AAAAAAAAC9k/CyQhFqSif4w/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t2POPFG_I/AAAAAAAAC9k/CyQhFqSif4w/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+4.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the  current rate of increase the freeboard will be lost in two to three  days, but as before we are reliant upon these figures being correct.&amp;nbsp;  This episode of incorrect freeboard measurement does not reflect well on  NDMA, given the importance of these numbers.&amp;nbsp; Of course, the fact that  the saddle is located at a higher elevation means that the lake volume  will be larger - i.e. it increases the size of the potential flood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of  great concern to me though is the continued problem of closure of the  spillway.&amp;nbsp; It is clear that the banks of the spillway are failing in  multiple locations.&amp;nbsp; These failures are progressively closing the  spillway, as this Focus image, taken of the spillway banks yesterday  morning, shows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t4MoXd-NI/AAAAAAAAC9s/aVJeKJ4MAyI/s1600/10_05+Attabad+spillway+sides.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t4MoXd-NI/AAAAAAAAC9s/aVJeKJ4MAyI/s640/10_05+Attabad+spillway+sides.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The concern  would be that the spillway closes completely before the water level  reaches this level, which would effectively increase the freeboard once  again, albeit probably briefly.&amp;nbsp; In effect we are in a high stakes&amp;nbsp; race  between the rate of water level rise and the rate of closure of the  spillway.&amp;nbsp; The strength of the clay material forming the spillway banks  is clearly low, as we believed from the start.&amp;nbsp; Either way, the spillway  is clearly completely incapable of handling the flow, so erosion is  inevitable.&amp;nbsp; The one bright spot is that the failed banks may erode  preferentially, allowing the channel to widen more rapidly than it  down-cuts, as happened at Tangjiashan.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, lets  not forget the hardship that this crisis is imposing on the local  people.&amp;nbsp; The &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/05/25/pictory-idp-camps/"&gt;Pamir Times&lt;/a&gt;  today puiblished this image of a camp for Internally Displaced People  (IDPs):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t6nWyjBrI/AAAAAAAAC90/Yw0vr-IU_zw/s1600/10_05+IDPs.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t6nWyjBrI/AAAAAAAAC90/Yw0vr-IU_zw/s640/10_05+IDPs.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I need say no  more.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-2729537736471637704?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/2729537736471637704/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-bizarre-race-between-two.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/2729537736471637704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/2729537736471637704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-bizarre-race-between-two.html' title='Attabad - a bizarre race between two processes'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_t2POPFG_I/AAAAAAAAC9k/CyQhFqSif4w/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+recalculated+4.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-8089542519017247030</id><published>2010-05-24T08:05:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-24T09:03:13.286-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A further update on Attabad</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;Important update: a combined Focus and FWO team have now  resurveyed the freeboard and have agreed that there correct freeboard  figure was 11.5 feet (3.5 metres) this morning.&amp;nbsp; This means that  overtopping is likely to be a few more days away, although could still occur at any time&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;NDMA have now released their daily report for yesterday, so I have  replotted the freeboard graph (see note above):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_qUdNRsWRI/AAAAAAAAC9c/-7refP59uv0/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="438" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_qUdNRsWRI/AAAAAAAAC9c/-7refP59uv0/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+3.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You  will see that there has been further divergence between the Focus and  the NDMA data, with NDMA still reporting 2.01 metres of freeboard, and  representing a decrease of freeboard of just 43 cm in 24 hours.&amp;nbsp; On that  basis, the overtopping may still be a few days away.&amp;nbsp; It should be  noted here that the NDMA freeboard was physically measured, whilst the  Focus figure was estimated from a distance.&amp;nbsp; On that basis it may well  be that the NDMA data are more reliable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NDMA have now  suspended freeboard measurements, quite rightly, so we are all in the  dark from here-on.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-8089542519017247030?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/8089542519017247030/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/further-update-on-attabad.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/8089542519017247030'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/8089542519017247030'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/further-update-on-attabad.html' title='A further update on Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_qUdNRsWRI/AAAAAAAAC9c/-7refP59uv0/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-1405258200666825695</id><published>2010-05-24T01:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-24T02:04:34.956-07:00</updated><title type='text'>24th May update on Attabad</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;NB this is a mirror of the post on my main blog: &lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FOCUS have kindly provided an update on the state of affairs at  Attabad, and NDMA have also posted online their statistics for 22nd May  (note this is now two days out of date).&amp;nbsp; The freeboard graph looks  like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_op2nqLLAI/AAAAAAAAC80/1rfraqFCnm0/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="438" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_op2nqLLAI/AAAAAAAAC80/1rfraqFCnm0/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Key  points:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The Focus data (which has consistently been the  most reliable) indicates a freeboard of 1.15 metres on 23rd, with the  water level increasing at about 80 cm per day, giving a likely  overtopping date of today or tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;2. However, the NDMA data  gives a freeboard 60 cm higher than Focus on 22nd May, and a lower rate  of water level rise (48 cm in 24 hours).&amp;nbsp; If this is correct,  overtopping will occur later in the week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seepage  continues to increase, but a seepage-induced failure now looks unlikely  in the context of loss of freeboard.&amp;nbsp; Focus have provided some images of  the situation taken from their monitoring point.&amp;nbsp; Before I show these, I  do want to make the point that the Focus team have provided an  exceptional service to the people of Hunza, and indeed of Pakistan, as  well as to readers of this blog.&amp;nbsp; They have done so iin extraordinarily  difficult conditions.&amp;nbsp; This is the text and monitoring point in which  they have been living for the last two months:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_or-h2B2YI/AAAAAAAAC88/seShL9hgv5I/s1600/DSC02354.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_or-h2B2YI/AAAAAAAAC88/seShL9hgv5I/s640/DSC02354.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mast is  the CCTV station.&amp;nbsp; We have all benefited from the information they have  provided - I hope that comments on this post will reflect this  extraordinary effort and contribution, and that in due course the people  of Pakistan will recognise what they have achieved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  team have provided this image of the site looking down from this  monitoring point:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_or-h2B2YI/AAAAAAAAC88/seShL9hgv5I/s1600/DSC02354.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_or-h2B2YI/AAAAAAAAC88/seShL9hgv5I/s640/DSC02354.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a  view from the monitoring point looking down onto the dam site, taken  yesterday by Focus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_oxUhNtMXI/AAAAAAAAC9E/HQTWUmuhjhg/s1600/DSC02355.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_oxUhNtMXI/AAAAAAAAC9E/HQTWUmuhjhg/s640/DSC02355.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My concern  about the state of the spillway is increasing.&amp;nbsp; This image shows the  spillway from the same point:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_oxsZ6L1aI/AAAAAAAAC9M/GCgRgnfqBZw/s1600/DSC02358.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_oxsZ6L1aI/AAAAAAAAC9M/GCgRgnfqBZw/s640/DSC02358.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spillway  looks in a fairly poor state in the image above.&amp;nbsp; However, the image  posted today on the &lt;a href="http://pamirtimes.net/2010/05/24/pictory-from-the-spillway/"&gt;Pamir  Times&lt;/a&gt; is even worse:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_o5-0ty6AI/AAAAAAAAC9U/d6HegEv51ao/s1600/10_05+PT+spillway.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_o5-0ty6AI/AAAAAAAAC9U/d6HegEv51ao/s640/10_05+PT+spillway.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is clear  that the sides of the spillway have closed up over the last few weeks,  leaving a narrow channel that is almost totally inadequate.&amp;nbsp; The  weakness of the materials also bodes ill for events when over-topping  occur&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-1405258200666825695?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/1405258200666825695/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/25th-may-update-on-attabad.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1405258200666825695'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/1405258200666825695'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/25th-may-update-on-attabad.html' title='24th May update on Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_op2nqLLAI/AAAAAAAAC80/1rfraqFCnm0/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+week+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-9172044808809185512</id><published>2010-05-23T03:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T03:17:42.166-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Attabad - less than two metres to go before water flow</title><content type='html'>NB this is a mirrow of the post on my main site.&amp;nbsp; Please &lt;a href="http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-more-updates-on-this-site-for-few.html"&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt; for an explanation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several people have asked for an update on the situation at Attabad,  and a forecast of what will happen, so here goes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First,  the situation as I understand it is as follows.&amp;nbsp; In the last few days  the availability of data on the situation on the ground has become  difficult for reasons that are very understandable.&amp;nbsp; However, Focus have  continued to take measurements of lake depth when possible, and NDMA  have also posted information online.&amp;nbsp; Thus, a graph of the freeboard of  the two measurements looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jqpGVDcmI/AAAAAAAAC7U/Gg1_QIWeKU4/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+both+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="438" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jqpGVDcmI/AAAAAAAAC7U/Gg1_QIWeKU4/s640/10_05+Freeboard+both+1.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whilst there  is close agreement between the two datasets over the last ten days or  so, and generally good agreement overall, the difficulties of  forecasting the final point of overtopping are clear when just the last  seven days of measurements are shown:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jr1vB14NI/AAAAAAAAC7c/86_QHJBcEkM/s1600/10_05+Freeboard+week+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="438" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jr1vB14NI/AAAAAAAAC7c/86_QHJBcEkM/s640/10_05+Freeboard+week+1.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next NDMA  update will help - however my experience through the whole of this has  been that the Focus data is the most reliable.&amp;nbsp; With a Fovcus measured  increase of water level of 85 cm in the 24 hours ending yesterday, and a  freeboard of 1.95 metres at lunchtime (local time) yesterday, the most  likely time of overtopping is late tomorrow (24th) or early on the  25th.&amp;nbsp; This situation is not going to be any easier to manage should  overtopping start at night.&amp;nbsp; However, the most recent NDMA data might  suggest a slightly later date, and of course there is always the  possibility of an earlier failure as discussed previously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So,  what is going to happen at the time of overtopping?&amp;nbsp; It is impossible  to say with any certainty, but the most recent images from FOCUS,  provided late on Friday, do help.&amp;nbsp; First, this overview image shows the  dam, spillway etc, taken from the rock spur that is the location of the  early warning team.&amp;nbsp; It is pleasing to see that there is no-one on the  dam itself, which has been evacuated.&amp;nbsp; Note the seepage points.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jxuVmGVZI/AAAAAAAAC7k/Q9KCr83VF40/s1600/DSC02327.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jxuVmGVZI/AAAAAAAAC7k/Q9KCr83VF40/s640/DSC02327.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, this  image shows the spillway looking upstream towards the lake.&amp;nbsp; I was  somewhat shocked when I saw this image:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jx1-hY6kI/AAAAAAAAC70/TJcibqq_mos/s1600/DSC02341.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jx1-hY6kI/AAAAAAAAC70/TJcibqq_mos/s640/DSC02341.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spillway  is really very narrow indeed - only 7 to 8 metres deep at the base and  15 metres at the top, and about 14 m deep.&amp;nbsp; As such it seems too small  to be able to handle even the current inflow rate (about 80 cubic metres  per second), let alone the summer flood.&amp;nbsp; The channel is unlined, the  walls are unprotected, it is not straight and it is too steep, all shown  by this image inside the spillway:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jxzu_FmII/AAAAAAAAC7s/5ytQwbE0Sxo/s1600/DSC02342.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jxzu_FmII/AAAAAAAAC7s/5ytQwbE0Sxo/s640/DSC02342.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So erosion  and a release of a substantial volume of the lake water is I think very  likely.&amp;nbsp; However, this may well not start immediately.&amp;nbsp; Indeed, at a  rate of water level rise of 80 cm per day, which will reduce as outflow  commences, it may take a couple of days for the spillway to carry the  full inflow.&amp;nbsp; Thus, I would not be surprised if the spillway does not  erode when water flow starts, but that it takes a few hours to a few  days to initiate this process.&amp;nbsp; Once it begins, erosion will probably  happen in three ways:&lt;br /&gt;1. I would expect to see basal erosion, Once  erosion starts along the whole of the base of the channel the process  is likely to accelerate quite quickly.&lt;br /&gt;2. I think we will  certainly see erosion of the sidewalls, probably causing collapse of the  banks, probably starting fairly soon after flow starts.&amp;nbsp; This can be  very bad news indeed (temporary blockages can allow the water level to  build up and then permit a rapid release) or it can be quite helpful in  terms of widening the channel, increasing the capacity (see below).&lt;br /&gt;3.  We may see erosion on the downstream face as soon as water flow starts,  which then could eat back into the dam, steepening the channel.&amp;nbsp; We  could even see new slope failures on the downstream face, but the lower  gradient here might help.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the materials on the  downstream face are erodible is shown by the newly-formed channels below  the seepage points.&amp;nbsp; Note also just how much seepage there is now - and  remember that this is just one of several points:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jx3kl5bdI/AAAAAAAAC78/4BIiY7M5S0Q/s1600/DSC02335.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jx3kl5bdI/AAAAAAAAC78/4BIiY7M5S0Q/s640/DSC02335.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is also  worth bearing in mind that this is about 2 cubic metres of flow per  second; the current inflow is about 70 cubic metres per second, and the  summer flow rate is probably&amp;nbsp; at least five times as great again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  most likely scenario therefore is that water flow across the spillway  is stable for a while, whilst eroding the sidewalls, then as the water  volume increases the flow rate increases and basal erosion starts.&amp;nbsp; This  will accelerate as more water is released, and the breach develops.&amp;nbsp; I  still hope that this will happen reasonably slowly (i.e. over a few  hours), but I believe that it could be rapid, especially in view of the  inadequate spillway form.&amp;nbsp; Of course a very rapid failure could still be  initiated by another landslide, or by sudden development of the  seepage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want information about what a collapse  of a landslide barrier actually looks like, can I refer you to the  Tangjiashan event, which I monitored two years ago.&amp;nbsp; This went from this  (water flow through the spillway, which here was narrow but not steep,  but was designed to initiate erosion):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_j43Aden8I/AAAAAAAAC8E/nAXEBLv48IQ/s1600/08_06+tangjiashan+11.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_j43Aden8I/AAAAAAAAC8E/nAXEBLv48IQ/s400/08_06+tangjiashan+11.jpg" width="307" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To  this (rapid failure of the landslide mass): &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_j5CAw9xsI/AAAAAAAAC8U/6Mn3DExtDnM/s1600/08_06+tangjiashan+16.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_j5CAw9xsI/AAAAAAAAC8U/6Mn3DExtDnM/s320/08_06+tangjiashan+16.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peak flow occurred about 5 hours after  erosion started.&amp;nbsp; In this case though the dam was broader and more  resistance to erosion (the materials were more coarse-grained), which  meant that the channel widened rather than deepening rapidly. Peak flow  was about 9000 cubic metres per second.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that we  are equally as fortunate with Attabad.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-9172044808809185512?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/9172044808809185512/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-less-than-two-metres-to-go.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/9172044808809185512'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/9172044808809185512'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-less-than-two-metres-to-go.html' title='Attabad - less than two metres to go before water flow'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_jqpGVDcmI/AAAAAAAAC7U/Gg1_QIWeKU4/s72-c/10_05+Freeboard+both+1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-7522647371300104453</id><published>2010-05-23T03:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T03:18:55.497-07:00</updated><title type='text'>No more data updates on this site for a few days</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I have decided not to update the data component of this site for a few days.&amp;nbsp; You will see that I have also taken down the posts showing the data as I am worried that this is misleading in view of the lack of updates.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Updates will be posted on my main blog as I receive information:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I will mirror those posts here.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-7522647371300104453?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/7522647371300104453/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-more-updates-on-this-site-for-few.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7522647371300104453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/7522647371300104453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-more-updates-on-this-site-for-few.html' title='No more data updates on this site for a few days'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-3802616607728140465</id><published>2010-05-20T05:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T23:35:19.470-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Attabad'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hunza'/><title type='text'>Attabad Freeboard (NDMA data)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;b&gt;Freeboard:&lt;/b&gt; 3.47 metres on 19th May 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;24 hours rate of loss of freeboard: &lt;/b&gt;86 cm per day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Estimated date of overtopping: &lt;/b&gt;22nd or 23rd May 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Graph of data - NB overtopping occurs no later than the point at which the freeboard reaches zero:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_UwCYVB0lI/AAAAAAAAC5U/s-JQHqLW8AM/s1600/10_05+NDMA+freeboard+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="442" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_UwCYVB0lI/AAAAAAAAC5U/s-JQHqLW8AM/s640/10_05+NDMA+freeboard+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-3802616607728140465?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/3802616607728140465/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-ndma-data.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3802616607728140465'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3802616607728140465'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/attabad-freeboard-ndma-data.html' title='Attabad Freeboard (NDMA data)'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_UwCYVB0lI/AAAAAAAAC5U/s-JQHqLW8AM/s72-c/10_05+NDMA+freeboard+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-269088924578178837</id><published>2010-05-13T13:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T23:35:19.491-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The current situation at Attabad</title><content type='html'>This page provides the most recent data on the situation at Attabad, using data provided by FOCUS.&amp;nbsp; Lower down the page you will find a log of changes to the data.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;For a commentary on the situation please see my other blog:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/ &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Most recent data: 20th May 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Water flow over the spillway or as a result of seepage induced failure is imminent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Freeboard on 19th May (NDMA data): 3.47 metres&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;NB: Focus data on 20th May indicates a freeboard of 4.27 metres.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Lake depth on 19th May (NDMA): 104.26 metres&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Lake depth on 20th May (Focus): 104.82 metres&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Rate of increase of lake level in last 10 days:&amp;nbsp; 0.87 metres per day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Rate of inflow: 93.39 cubic metres per second&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Rate of seepage: 7.19 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;cubic metres per second&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Water flow over the  spillway or as a result of seepage induced failure is imminent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;For a commentary on the situation please see my other  blog:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://www.daveslandslideblog.blogspot.com/  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-269088924578178837?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/269088924578178837/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/current-situation-at-attabad.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/269088924578178837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/269088924578178837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/current-situation-at-attabad.html' title='The current situation at Attabad'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-3039031760367160379</id><published>2010-05-13T13:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T03:13:14.746-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='seepage'/><title type='text'>Seepage at the Attabad landslide</title><content type='html'>These two graphs shows the seepage of water through the dam at the Attabad landslide.&amp;nbsp; The first one shows the development of total seepage with time:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZGOFK4imI/AAAAAAAAC68/Sg52DuZWdl8/s1600/10_05+seepage+depth.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="396" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZGOFK4imI/AAAAAAAAC68/Sg52DuZWdl8/s640/10_05+seepage+depth.bmp" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second shows the development of total seepage with lake depth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZGOFK4imI/AAAAAAAAC68/Sg52DuZWdl8/s1600/10_05+seepage+depth.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="396" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZGOFK4imI/AAAAAAAAC68/Sg52DuZWdl8/s640/10_05+seepage+depth.bmp" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Most recent data: 20th May 2010&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-3039031760367160379?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/3039031760367160379/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/seepage-at-attabad-landslide.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3039031760367160379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/3039031760367160379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/05/seepage-at-attabad-landslide.html' title='Seepage at the Attabad landslide'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZGOFK4imI/AAAAAAAAC68/Sg52DuZWdl8/s72-c/10_05+seepage+depth.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5381942232023234736.post-7618808782376356771</id><published>2010-05-13T12:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T23:35:19.498-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lake level'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hunza'/><title type='text'>The water level at Attabad</title><content type='html'>This is the new graph showing the water level at Attabad.&amp;nbsp; It has been compiled using the FOCUS data.&amp;nbsp; The black dots are the measured water level.&amp;nbsp; The red line is the level of the spillway.&amp;nbsp; The gap between the two is the freeboard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Please treat this graph with caution as the most recent datapoints are somewhat anomalous.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZHbWqHEqI/AAAAAAAAC7E/Uy44NOyIYjk/s1600/10_05+new+water+height.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="396" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a2JvElU8gh4/S_ZHbWqHEqI/AAAAAAAAC7E/Uy44NOyIYjk/s640/10_05+new+water+height.bmp" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Water flow over the spillway is now imminent&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most recent measurement: 20th May 2010&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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The water level data graph appears to be anomalous&lt;br /&gt;19th May: New page showing NDMA freeboard data added&lt;br /&gt;18th May: Data updated to 17th May, but only estimated due to GLOF.&amp;nbsp; No data available for seepage due to dangerous conditions on the dam. &lt;br /&gt;17th May:&amp;nbsp; All graphs and data updated to 16th May. &lt;br /&gt;15th May: All graphs and data updated to 14th May. &lt;br /&gt;13th May 2010: I have revamped the site to make the data presentation more straightforward as we enter the last phase.&amp;nbsp; Old posts still below. All graphs updated with data from 13th May 2010.&amp;nbsp; I have also added a new graph of seepage against water depth.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;12th May 2010: Data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; Note increasing seepage rate.&amp;nbsp; A new seepage point has developed.&lt;br /&gt;10th May 2010: Data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; NDMA have not posted any new data over the weekend (why would they?), so I am using the Focus data to fill the gaps.&amp;nbsp; I will correct these once the NDMA data are available.&amp;nbsp; The forecast date range for water reaching the spillway is still 22nd-24th May. &lt;br /&gt;8th May 2010:&amp;nbsp; Data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;6th May 2010: Data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; I have changed the calculation date for overtopping to use the 24 hour data as the rate of filling is accelerating markedly. &lt;br /&gt;6th May 2010: Graphs updated. &lt;br /&gt;5th May 2010: Data updated.&amp;nbsp; Graphs will be updated when NDMA data are available. &lt;br /&gt;4th May 2010 (18:30 UT): Graphs updated to 3rd May 2010.&lt;br /&gt;4th May 2010: Update of data.&amp;nbsp; Graphs to be updated later in the day.&amp;nbsp; Note the increase in lake size and it appears that the rate of rise of the water level is increasing. &lt;br /&gt;29th April 2010:&amp;nbsp; Update of data and all graphs.&lt;br /&gt;28th April 2010: Update of data and most graphs. &lt;br /&gt;27th April 2010:&amp;nbsp; All data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; NDMA have revised thir freeboard measurement to a value that is similar to that of Focus.&amp;nbsp; The Focus value is once again being used for the overtopping calculation. &lt;br /&gt;21st April 2010: All data and graphs updated.&amp;nbsp; New NDMA data are now available for the freeboard, which are now being used for the overtopping calculation. &lt;br /&gt;20th April 2010: The summary data (but not the graphs) have been updated to 19th April 2010. &lt;br /&gt;19th April 2010:&amp;nbsp; All graphs and data updated to 18th April. Seepage rate and inflow rate are now rising. &amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;17th April 2010:&amp;nbsp; All graphs and data updated to 16th April.&amp;nbsp; Note the reduced rate of water level rise in the last 24 hours.&amp;nbsp; Reported sounds of subsurface deformation continue to cause real concern at Shishkat and need urgent attention.&lt;br /&gt;16th April 2010: Updated the seepage graph such the y-axis is correct (thanks to Tropical for pointing this out) &lt;br /&gt;16th April 2010: All graphs and data updated to 14th April&amp;nbsp;  &lt;br /&gt;13th April 2010: All graphs and data updated to 11th April&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;11th April 2010: I have added a new graph of the rate of rise of the lake level.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5381942232023234736-6155086089982754768?l=hunzalandslide.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/feeds/6155086089982754768/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-news-on-this-site.html#comment-form' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6155086089982754768'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5381942232023234736/posts/default/6155086089982754768'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-news-on-this-site.html' title='Latest news on this site'/><author><name>Dr Dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11136933764103599991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry></feed>
